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Joseph

“As far as W. and the Jews, he clearly was the best friend we’ve had in a very long time in the Oval Office. Even you couldn’t make another President who you could plausibly claim better, with any cited evidence.”

I definitely can.

However It depends on what you mean by “good for Israel”

I think pressuring Israel to give up land for nothing in return is bad for Israel. Bush did that (Gush Katif) Obama has not. (Yes I know some Bush lovers pretend he did no such thing, spare me it wasnt that long ago) Dont forge tthe 2003 withholding of loan gaurantees as “punishment” for “illegal” construction in the west bank. and of course Bush calling for an international investigation after the Battle of Jenin.

IF you define good for ISrael as supporting militarily

again OBama was better than Bush. For example Bush refused to sell “bunker buster” bombs which Obama did. Bush’s Pentagon’s response to requests for Iron Dome was “Frosty” (WSJ 11/26/12) Obama of course pushed it through saving many Jewsih lives, Zul er zein gezunt un shtark. Military cooperation has increased.

If you define Good for Israel as support in the U.N.

Care to gues how many security council resolutions agaisn tISrael Obama let pass?

Ok i’ll tell you. It is zero. Not even one. Under W? 6 deemed by Israelis to be “one sided”

Guess when the first s.c. resolution calling for two staes passed? Ok ill tell you 2002. guess who was PResident?

now granted if your sole descriptor of “good for Israel” is the warmth of relationship betweent the P.M. and PResident, I’ll Grant Bush and Sharon had a far better relationship then Obama and Netanyahu (who openly campaigned for his opponent) However if you are looking for anything of substance I beleive I have cited plenty of evidence.

And no I’m not a chassid of Dick Cheney. Though even he can be right from time to time and he was right in 92 not in 2001. Even your party’s nominee realises that now, he also said that bush should have been impeached. A view clearly not repudiated by to many in your party based on the results of the primaries..