It seems to me that some posters here may be missing a sense of history. The Jewish people have never had “it” figured out. There have been seminal issues throughout our history which we, and no generation before us, have fully dealt with (see the Rambam who says Public Fasts are to keep in mind that our sins are the same as our forefathers). Galus is a process and a messy one at that. It is a process that we go through knowing that it will culminate with an Am Yisrael worthy of a true Geulah. Saying the State of Israel should not exist is tantamount to saying adolescence should not exist because of all of the insane things teenagers do. Like adolescence the creation of the state of Israel is a part in of our development, it is a vital piece of the process that leads to something meaningful. I am not going to sit here an enumerate all the incredible programs the government of Israel fund and have in place which allow the Chareidi community here to flourish in-spite of the fact that it is an unsustainable model without any outside assistance. The amount of money the State gives to charedi families, arnona breaks, schooling etc. all this for a community that fights the government tooth and nail not to involve themselves in society except where it benefits them (obviously I am stereotyping here but this is the over all sentiment). That being said I agree that there are serious issues with the government but I do not for a second believe that if we were to give over the reigns to the “Gedolim” (quotations not meant to be insulting, just saying “whoever they are”) that all of a sudden we would have a perfect state and Moshiach would come riding to town. We as a nation are not ready yet for a geula or it would have happened. It took hundreds of years of insanity (the shoftim period) before we were ready for a King and even then we messed it up…and when we finally had “peace” during Shlomo HaMelech it lasted a few decades before everything went to off the rails. There is no way to escape process…there are no shortcuts. We are the Am HaNivchar and Am Kadosh but we are not a perfect people and no sect among us has it figured out. If you think things should change that is great, criticisim (so long as it comes from the right place and is properly voiced) is how we move forward but to start saying that the State of Israel, which has against insane odds come into being, lasted as long as it has (and G-d willing will continue),done as much as it has for Am Yisrael (Yes Joseph, even Chareidim and even though there have been terrible stories here and there in their treatment of chareidim) should never have been I think, in my less than humble opinion, is a big mistake. My sincere apologies for the grammar here.
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