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Rt555 I apologize if I did not explain, I will but ,could be by chance, I have not been redt to a girl who has been around the block and is now holding were I feel I am. I think this can be explained simply that girls naturally will not make the statement of “going otd” unless they are really holding far from yiddishkiet, this does not mean regular good girls don’t rebel like guys but its quieter and usually by the time they are in shidduchim their story is long forgotten and they are looking for a guy who hasn’t been around and if the girl is she’s usually not holding by lookin for a full time learner but again if the opportunity arises I would definitely say yes