“it is considered to be “too quickly” whenever someone makes an incorrent assumption about someone. ”
Ah but this int incorrect.
“Also, I wasn’t only referring to this case. ”
I am.
“I have seen many, many, incorrect assumptions made about posters. ”
how do you know thy were incorrect?
“There are many people here who are either very judgmental, not very bright, or have trouble reading,”
Oh I couldn’t agree more! though aren’t we being judgemental by saying that?
“sorry, I looked at it too quickly and thought it had something to do with tefilas haderech ”
no need to apolagize. IF you dont know ask. dont read quickly If you aren’t familiar with the tefila just ask.
Yes As Ive pointed out already nusach ashkenaz doesn’t have that phrase. they do however have the phrase “Vlo lidei nisayon” which while not as strong a case, still undermines Josephs “position”
“I still think that my first argument that it might be excluding a misah meshuna that is al kiddush Hashem is a reasonable argument. ”
I don’t follow, what drives you to insert extra words into tefila that simply aren’t there? Why can’t it mean we don’t want a misah meshunah. period (which is what I’ll bet you’d have said it means before Joseph put his pretend fake idea into your head).
I am so confused what you are trying to accomplish. You are confusing Joseph’s position for torah misinai. To the extent that you are reinterpreting tefillos and even Joseph’s own position, he said quote “We all should hope that we, l… should be killed al kiddush Hashem.”” This involves a misah meshunah. I don’t understand why you change his position to now say ” that we should daven to die al kiddush Hashem” that is not what he said. As you point out: Don’t make assumptions of what other posters meant, look at what he said “we should daven to be killed…”. work at better reading comprehension (both of sources cited to you and of posts we are discussing).
There is no mitzva to defend Joseph’s wrong and misguided position (that he more than likely doesn’t actually believe)
“If you think that it’s possible to die al kiddush Hashem w/o a misah meshuna”
that was DY