Sojewish47: first off, you are right that is ‘just what guys do’, but that doesn’t it make it a correct thing to do, and it just shows that our chinuch system needs a major revamp. As for cigarettes, you are wrong, since even one cigarette is an issur deoraisa and cannot be condoned.
and just to reiterate, even if it is the norm, it is still wrong.
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