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Lilmod Ulelamaid
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” but it’s not something that warrants police intervention.”
“How can you be sure, the OP seems pretty conflicted, and is sounds like he suspects that police intervention is warranted.”

You misunderstood. That clause was a continuation of:
” There is a definite possibility that someone is not treating someone else in the family they way they should be” The words, “there is a definite POSSIBILITY” were going on the second half of the sentence.

I was saying that it is POSSIBLE that this is a case that does not call for police intervention EVEN IF someone is in fact treating someone else badly.

As I already wrote, the police can cause problems for people. There is a reason that his Rav told him not to call the police. Yes, it is assur to call the police if it’s not warranted, and I’m sorry if you can’t understand that.

Regarding your “fire” example, that is a clear-cut case of pikuach nefesh, and we know that the halacha is to call the fire department, and we know it has to be done right away, and we know that the fire department is the only place that can help.

As another poster pointed out, if you hear someone shout, “put that gun away” it is pikuach nefesh and you should call the police. But hearing someone screaming is not necessarily pikuach nefesh and does not call for calling the police. You don’t call the police every time you are scared. If you did, I would be calling the police a hundred times a day. Apparently, the Rav (who knows more about the situation than you do) did not consider this to be a situation that necessitated calling the police.

A better example to your fire example might be if you smelled smoke on Shabbos. You don’t run to call the fire department until you’ve investigated if it’s really a fire and if it’s life-threatening. Not all smoke is caused by fire, and not all fires are life-threatening.