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Joseph

“the majority of states have adopted preferred arrest policies that require police to either arrest one or both parties at the scene”

Yes, dozens of people get arrested for having heir Tv’s too loud. and for “Shalom Bayis issue some couples unfortunately regularly have that’s non-violent” and you acuse others of distorting facts?

LU
“there is a reason that the OP called him; he wasn’t sure whether or not the case warranted calling the police,”

maybe becasue he there is so much confussion about the non-issur to call police when lifes are at risk, that he thought he had too. I called my Rav when a fire started in my neighbors house a few days ago. (Im still waiting for a call back, my Rav is looking into it) that doesnt mean I was right to call the Rav

“Again, there is a reason why the Rav is the OP’s Rav and not the other way around. Yes, he is not infallible and he may be wrong, but he also may be right.”

Aside from My Rav looking into the above question. I asked him what bracha to make on an apple he says MEzonos, is he right? Should Istart making mezonos on apples?

“You misunderstood. That clause was a continuation of:…”
I didnt misunderstand, You dont understand the implications of your position. while yes there is a definite possibility that nothing is going on, there is also a definite possibility that soemthing is. In such a case the halacha is straight forward. If the Rav doesnt know the halacha that is his problem (and the poor potential victim).
“Yes, it is assur to call the police if it’s not warranted, and I’m sorry if you can’t understand that.”
no need to be sorry, but the OP thinks it may be warranted. LEt the police make that determination.

“regarding the fire example, that is a clear-cut case of pikuach nefesh”
As I mentioned before, what if You dont know? what if the buildign may be empty? what if everybody inside may be dead. There is a DEFINITE POSSIBILITY that there is no pikuach nefesh.

“screaming ”
it wasnt screaming it was “shrieking” and yes I dont call eveeytime I may hear screaming, but if a person thinks there might a problem he should call the police.

“A better example to your fire example might be if you smelled smoke on Shabbos”
that example is just as good as mine! If you see smoke pouring out of your neighbors house r”l do you call the fire department or ask your Rav to look into it.
What if you see smoke and hear shrieking? Maybe its their TV or they are having a play.