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@mdd1 You’re only strengthening my original point, not weakening it. OP suggested that Lubavitch was a “close-minded, self-centered cult” that “Nothing else exists to them besides Chabad.” I responded that *if* his accusations are true (although I’d argue that the Yeshivish world is a lot more self-centered and, in many ways, a lot more cultish than Chabad) then it was only because of the antagonism of the Yeshivish velt against Chabad.

Your response only confirms my original point. You say Chabad introduced fundamental changes that are dangerously close to Christianity. Aside from the fact that your “proof” is two random stories about random people that you have absolutely zero source for, and certainly have zero source within Chabad chassidus for, fundamentally, Chabad is basically identical to the Yeshiva world. Limud H’atorah, Shabbos, Kashrus, Tefillah, Tznius etc. (you know, the actual fundamentals of Yiddishkeit) are all exactly the same.

Additionally, the two stories you shared are completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. I reasoned that from *its inception* Chabad has been isolated by the Yeshivish world, and your defense of that is to share a story that occurred recently? Even if your stories are true (big if), and even if they represent Chabad as a whole (bigger if), and even if they are actually so foreign from traditional chassidus as you claim (biggest if), it speaks nothing of the hatred shown towards the earliest Lubavitchers.

Either way, if you enjoy living with your head in the sand about your own community, to the point where you’re doing extreme backflips to defend what anyone outside of your community would call indefensible then you gotta ask yourself who you calling a cult?