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I feel sorry for CS and all the other who have been defending lubavitch. NOt because I have anything against them defending what they believe in but because they also seem to really believe that we will be convinced by their arguments.

In a nutshell, I think the following is true of all the non-lubavitchers who have posted here regardless of their high esteem or otherwise of the lubavitcher rebbe. In no particular order:

1. There is no such thing as dor shvii except in lubavitch circles, and it’s source is the last lubavitcher rebbe or close to that time.
2. There is no such thing as nossi hador except in lubavitch circles, and its source is the … (as above).
3. We do not have neviim and the last lubavitcher rebbe was NOT a navi. the only source that he was is… (as above).
4. The last lubavicher rebbe was NOT the greatest talmid chochom of the generation or of any other generation, and the only source … (as above).
5. The fact that many rabbonim complimented/liked the last lubavitcher rebbe was because they saw that he had mailos, but not because they believed he was the godol hador. The only source for thinking otherwise … (as above).
6. (Something which hasn’t been brought up before as far as I recall) The only source that the last lubavitcher rebbe “loved each and every Jew” is … (as above). If he really loved them all why did he fight so bitterly with Satmar and Rav Shach? Why did he almost never allow Lubavitch to join into other communal functions e.g. Agudath Israel, Daf Yomi, except on his terms?

NOne of the above is intended to detract from the lubavitcher rebbe. There are those who hold him in high esteem and those who don’t – thats their individual understanding’s business – but it most definitely demonstrates that all the arguments put forward quoting his statements as proof are just a total waste of time.