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Shlucha,

“But he knows that Hashem set up Adam and Chava for chet etz hadaas so really He wanted the system to work this way. So heโ€™s wondering why He chose such a system?”

What do you mean “knows”? Huh how would he know that as a “fact”? Why in the world would anyone teach him that as the simple way to understand that. It sure is not – even the Kabalistic world like the Ramchal in Derech Hashem does not say that. He explains that as something that was derived and happened as a result as a human flaw, and Hashem waited until Avrhom Avinu that the human race should correct it…

Even the Chabd Seforim do not say so, at least the Alte Rebbe in Torah Ohr, he says the following in Parshas Breshis he explains the issue how the “Birur Ras” would have been without the Chet:

“. ื•ืข”ื“ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื‘ื”ืž”ืง ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื ืฉื”ืจื™ ืืจื–”ืœ ืœื ื’ืœื• ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืืœื ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื™ืชื•ืกืคื• ืขืœื™ื”ื ื’ืจื™ื ื“ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ื ืฆื•ืฆื•ืช ื•ืžื” ื”ื™ื” ื ืขืฉื” ืื ืœื ื—ื˜ืื• ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื’ื•ืœื™ื. ืืœื ืข”ื› ืฆ”ืœ ืฉืื– ื”ื™ื• ื ื›ืœืœื™ื ื”ื ืฆื•ืฆื•ืช ืžืžื™ืœื ื›ื ืจ ื‘ืคื ื™ ื”ืื‘ื•ืงื” ื›ืžื• ื ืขืžื” ื”ืขืžื•ื ื™ืช ื•ื›ืŸ ื›ืœ ื”ืขืžื™ื ื‘ืื• ืœืฉืžื•ืข ื—ื›ืžืช ืฉืœืžื” ื•ื›ืž”ืฉ ื‘ืžืœื›ืช ืฉื‘ื ื›ื•’. ื•ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืœืคื™ ืฉืื– ื”ื™ื” ืื‘ื•ืงื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืขื“”ืž ืข”ื› ืžืžื™ืœื ืžืชื›ืœืœื™ื ื‘ื” ื”ื ืฆื•ืฆื•ืช ื•ืื ื”ื™ื” ื ืžืฉืš ื‘ื”ืž”ืง ื›ืŸ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื™ื• ื›ื•ืœื ืžืชื‘ืจืจื™ื ืขื“”ื– ื•ื›ืž”ืฉ ืœืข”ืœ (ืฆืคื ื™ื” ื’’) ืื– ืื”ืคื•ืš ืืœ ืขืžื™ื ืฉืคื” ื‘ืจื•ืจื” ื›ื•’. ื•ื”ืœื›ื• ื’ื•ื™ื ืœืื•ืจืš ื›ื•’. ื•ื›ืš ื”ื™ื” ืขื ื™ืŸ ื”ืื“ื ื›ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื•ื˜ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ื•ืœื• ืงื“ื•ืฉ ื›ื™ ื’ื ื’ื•ืคื• ื ืœืงื— ืžืžืงื•ื ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ืžืžื ื• ื ืขืฉื• ืจืž”ื— ืื‘ืจื™ื• ื‘ืœื•ืœ ื‘ืฉืžืŸ ื›ื•’ ื•ื”ื™ื” ืขื•ืžื“ ื‘ื’”ืข ื•ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืกื™ืฃ ืื•ืจื•ืช ื•ืžืžื™ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืงืœื™ืคื•ืช ื›ืœื™ื ืข”ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื”ื ืฆื•ืฆื™ ืงื“ื•ืฉื” ื›ืœื™ื ืžื”ื ืื‘ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ืฉืœื ืข”ื™ ืžืœื—ืžื” ื›ื•’. ืžืฉื”ื› ืื—ืจ ืฉื—ื˜ื ืื–ื™ ืฆ”ืœ ื”ื‘ื™ืจื•ืจื™ื ืข”ื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื•ืžืœื—ืžื” ืฉืขืช ืฆืœื•ืชื ืฉืขืช ืงืจื‘ื ื›ื ”ืœ ื•ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื™ืจื“ ืืœ ืžืงื•ื ื”ืงืœื™ืคื•ืช ื•ืฉื ื™ื‘ืจืจื ื•ื–ื”ื• ืืช ื”ืื“ืžื” ืืฉืจ ืœืงื— ืžืฉื.

The above indicates that the world was original meant to be without the Chet of the Etz haDaas…

In any case, can you please post where the source is?