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Sechel HaYashar
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@Bubbyo,
“It’s time for Chabad to rejoin the body of Klal Yisroel again”
Well, thanks for inviting us back so nicely. I’ll raise it with the board next general meeting.

I’m not sure why anyone here gets the impression that any Lubavitcher here (I, CS, Aww,) is defending davening to the Rebbe. I don’t “daven to the Rebbe” I daven to Hashem. I’ve been Lubavitch my entire life, I’ve never seen anyone “daven to the Rebbe”.

When a Chossid goes to his Rebbes Tziyun, and davens there, that’s beseeching the Rebbe to intercede on your behalf just like a live Tzadik would. Hishtatchus Al Kivrei Tzadikim is not a new concept. Yidden of all stripes do it, ever been to Meron on Lag Baomer? I’ve personally seen Rebbes of other kraizen visit the Lubavitcher Rebbes Tziyun. Are they also “serving a”z?” Yehoshua and Kalev visited Kivrei Tzadikim, the Avos. It’s not a new practice. (I know, the Gra wrote against it… and Litvaks visit his Kever too…)

It’s mind boggling how every time you don’t like something you can throw out “avodah Zara!”. Maybe you should focus on the things that many frum people do that have more likelihood of being A”Z, like yoga, reiki, etc.

Or how about the “Blei Gisen” (pouring lead) to remove Ayin Hora which many say originates in Avoda Zara? I haven’t seen mass protests to it. It’s done in many frum communities, Lakewood too I’m sure.

When I quoted those lines before, with no context at all, just the original, some of you decided that the way I’m using them is also A”Z.

צדיק גוזר…
Of course I mean that the Rebbe is the Aibershter r”l. What else do Lubavitchers believe? Incredulous how you can decide what we believe, and put words in our mouths.

Re Rabbi Cunin, I don’t know about you, but in Lubavitch we aren’t sitting watching videos of him. I’ve never seen this video or any other video of him. Regardless, the insiders will tell you that he’s isn’t the most stable of people…