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Joseph
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You see, Syag, you’re once again parroting about my version of the Halacha when I absolutely did not offer *any* “version”. I simply quoted, verbatim, the actual text of the Halacha “as is” it is written in the Seforim HaKedoshim. And that’s what you don’t like. It isn’t a “version” of the Halacha that you and Phil don’t like; it is the Halacha itself that you object to but are embarrassed to say so in so many words. So instead you rant about a “version”.

To “question it’s application nowadays” of this or any Mitzvah, Phil, is exactly what the Conservatives/Masorti do every day with every Mitzvah they don’t like since it doesn’t fit into a Western 21st Century world they idolize.

The Posek was Rav Elyashiv. Does he meet your standards? I ask because even the Chofetz Chaim failed to meet your standards, so much so that you “question it’s application nowadays” something the Chofetz Chaim paskened in Shmiras HaLashon, Hilchos Rechilus, a relatively very very short time ago.

Syag, about your comment that I “selected this to be the one that you perfect and fulfill to the outmost”, if I did that would be a good thing. No less than if I (or anyone) selected the Mitzvah of Bikur Cholim to be the one mitzvah I perfect and fulfill to the utmost and make extra special efforts to fulfill moreso even than some other Mitzvos. The Mitzvah of Bikur Cholim and the Mitzvah we’re discussing here that the Chofetz Chaim, Rambam, Sefer HaChinuch, Chazal and so many others write and tell us how to fulfill are both equally Mitzvos. And it is certainly a worthwhile Mitzvah to make a special effort to fulfill this above discussed Mitzvah and anyone doing so is very praiseworthy. But as it so happens I, in fact, (perhaps unfortunately) haven’t chosen to make a special effort to focus on this particular mitzvah. In fact, I do focus on Bikur Cholim with a special effort and am visiting and helping the sick in hospitals and nursing homes with an effort above some other Mitzvos.

Syag, you once again, as you’ve done frequently before with not only me but with DaasYochid and many other posters here, grossly mischaracterized and twisted what I said into the fashion of how your crooked mind thinks. I simply quoted the abominable statement of Phil that, r”l, he “question it’s application nowadays” the same way the Reform/Masorti habitually do. This is nothing new for that rasha who has a history here of attacking the foundations of Torah Law that he thinks is outdated for the 21st Century in a Western democracy.

Yes, he clearly and effectively questioned whether this Mitzvah and Halacha is applicable nowadays in his 21st Century era. Just as both of you repeatedly here tried to sugar-coat your virulent dislike of this Mitzvah by saying it was said over incorrectly, when the fact of the matter as any even semi-literate reader here can see that the Halacha was merely related verbatim from the Seforim HaKedoshim without any additional provisions thrown in to the comment.

Just in case anyone missed it, the comment above by Lebedik Yankel is a *must-read*.