ubiq: 1. Don’t put words in my mouth or create strawmen. Nobody said anything about if “Jews were peaceful and listened”. Refraining from taking up armed fighting against an army you cannot defeat is not equivalent to listening to what you’re told.
2. “obviously, though that was never the goal”.
If that wasn’t the goal, what WAS the goal? Martyring themselves and ten thousand others as “heroes” for “fighting back”, as the Zionists glorify them for? Otherwise what did they expect or hope to accomplish. It is clearly yourself who fails to grasp history, the Holocaust or the futility of shooting when the obvious result will be immediate death of oneself and many many others.