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Thanks kaiserw. Also the quote from Rashbi “Roisi bnei aliya vhem muatim” brought by the Alter Rebbe in perek 10.

Btw if youre honest rso I don’t know where you base your gripes on an intellectual ground ( I suppose in giving in on this thread not addressing the Rebbe etc as yall can’t seem to get past it. I still am looking for your response to the source of what you think is wrong with how we request moshiach abnd Geula).

We in lubavitch have no problem giving other tzaddikim their respect. At Farbrengens, Chabad.org etc we quote stories of the heilike ruzhiner, choze fun lublin, reb zusia etc with the same respect and awe we accord our Rebbes.

But when the chassidim and talmidim of today don’t consider their own Rebbes or Gedolim to be tzaddikim of Tanya (absolutely no struggle with their yetzer hara sas it is drugged / gone entirely), (and I have evidence of this of youd like) then why should we?

And if we have evidence that our Rebbe is a tzadik of Tanya, then why do you bristle at the lack of respect? There’s no lack of respect just evidence based observation.

We apply it within lubavitch as well: reb sholom mordechai, if you’ve listened to his Farbrengens or read his books, has reached levels in Avodas Hashem higher than the rest of us. Yet we don’t call him shlita or Rebbe because he is not a tzadik of Tanya (as evidenced by his stories of his struggles with his yetzer hara.) this is no slight to him, nor does he consider it one.

We definitely respect him and admire him as a chossid and Mashpia, because he is, but no one is according him the respect we accord our Rebbes because he isn’t. (There are other lubavitchers like that as well, just he is one of the most famous outside lubavitch.)

So on an honest intelligent basis, I don’t see any reason for your gripe. If there is something faulty I said here you can lmk