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ubiquitin
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get it clear part 2 of 2
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” You trust the government with certainty.”
Um, no again.

“I trust Hashem – my body’s designer with certainty.”
No you don’t if you did you would follow the majority of poskim And besides did you eat today? Why? If Hashem designed a body that really needed nutrients He would have made a automatically replenishing system.

“Can you please understand that there’s another opinion out there by descent, well intentioned human beings?”
no this isnt an opinion issue. I thought your group was well-intentioned but perhaps misguided, but that beleif is no longer sustainable

“Can you understand that we never entered an agreement that I, who oppose vaccines will get vaccinated, to help protect you?”
No, and for arguments sake ok. so keep away from us. dont come to our shuls, schools, simchas stores etc. You WANT us to accept you but dont care to “help protect us” that isnt fair.

“I deserve basic human respect.”
Agreed, And I respectfully disagree, as your research is clearly lacking

“I don’t ask you to agree or follow my choices”.
but you do. Look, lets say you opposed seatbelt use. you read someplace about a person who was r”l trapped in a car due to seatbelt and couldnt escape. Do you think you have the right to not seatbelt your kids. More to the point, do you have the right to not seat-belt MY kids, if they are riding with you. IT may not be fair that no reasonable parent would let their kids in your car let kids go on trips with your kids etc. But that is our right. This is no different

“No one should be ruling who’s right.”
Not even scientists, with hard data?

“Our creator has given us bechira.”
another strange argument, does that mean I have a right to shoot people , and you should respect my right? Bechira isnt a blanket right to make wrong decisions.

“As true Torah Jews you should not want this freedom to be taken from anyone. ”
Just the opposite, rights are a foreign concept. We believe in responsibilities. yo u have a responsibility to give tzedaka, it isnt a right. Yo udo not have a right to say what you want , nor do yo u have a right to play games with your or your kid’s health.

“For if you fight and scream for this choice to be taken away from others you may one day discover that a choice you hold dear is being taken away from you.”
Then we will fight to keep that choice. What is right is right. You dont allow a wrong becuase of another right.

“Do you want to set the stage for forceful laws and regulations regarding your health or religion to be imposed on you?”
Health – yes of course as demonstrated above
Religion – Again the courts have already ruled that religion doesn’t always trump health. I am not sure what religion yo u practice. but Judaism requires vaccination, according to most poskim, and according to none does it oppose it. so don’t misuse my religion to protect you backwards idea.