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Aside from the claim I have already made earlier that your rebbe’s kavonah in this was to draw attention to himself and to claim the leadership that you have attributed to him,

I don’t get something. You said earlier that you don’t believe that Lubavitch is not a Kefira organization per se. So we’re Bichlal Amisecha, and you have to judge us Lekaf Zechus. So Kal Vachomer, you should be judging the Rebbe Lekaf Zechus. It’s just mind boggling how a Frum person would write a post, when it comes to Lubavitch, that reminds me of FailedMessiah. You can take this further, that the reason certain Roshei Yeshiva pushed for Kollel was so that they’d have financial control over their community, or that the reasons why different Admorim were against Limmudei Chol is to keep people poor and easily swayed. Chas Veshalom to say such a thing !!

The truth is, that the Rebbe didn’t want Mivtzoyim to be a Lubavitch thing[1]. He would have been more than happy if someone else would have gone out to put Tefillin on people, or Tzitzis, or got them to keep Shabbos, or talked to people about Hashem, or Shiluach HaKan, or pushed for any other Mitzvah. There’s nothing Lubavitch in Mivtzoim.

It’s just that there’s an obligation of “Hochiach Tochiach”. And that’s what Mivtzoim is about.

The question is, what’s the proper way to Mochiach people. So the Lubavitch derech is, that the point of being Mochiach is to get the other person to stop sinning. Now, the question is what’s the most effective way to do that? So there are two ways to be Mochiach – One way is to come to someone who’s breaking the Torah and say “Sinner. Stop now!! You’re violating a negative commandment. You know what would happen to you if there was a Beis din now?” The other is to tell him that he’s Jewish, that he should come to Shul, do a small Mitzvah, and slowly teach him more and more until he becomes a full Maamin, as a fully Shomer Shabbos Jew.

So the same way we try to find the good in the Satmar Derech (and we do. I’ve never heard any Lubavitcher “in the know” speaking badly about Reb Yoel [2], for example), it would be nice if others would give the same courtesy back.

[1]. And I say this to Lubavitchers too, for the record.

[2]. And even during the whole Satmar-Lubavitch controversy, our main issue was with the behavior of certain Chassidim. I don’t remember there being any fight with them personally.