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Every tayneh you have against the shita of chabad and the Rebbe, and you make according to that a maskona, is worth nothing, until you have a godol or Rebbe that says that maskona, only then we can have a conversation who is right, but until then it’s worthless.
So I’m asking which godel held against Lubavitche, Rebbe and what did he say and what did the Rebbe say back and hold. Because you keep on saying that ALL GEDOILIM hold what you say.

Honestly, I don’t think you want to go there. The fact is, that many Litvisher Roshei Yeshiva spoke out against Lubavitch. We (rightly, in my opinion) just don’t koch in these things, but if you really want to know, what you should do is look up who was on the Moetzes in, say, the Lameds through the Nuns. If you don’t know who they are, you can generally assume that we didn’t get along too well.

The thing is, that there were also people that we did hear about, as they were friendly with the Rebbe, but it was only in the early years. By the later years, some of those also stopped.

And also, just a small tip, because I can see where you’re going.

You do realize your on the Yeshiva world coffeeroom, not on the Modern Orthodox coffee room. And while there are a few Modern Orthodox people here, most of them long abandoned this thread.

You’re dealing here with Yeshivish/Chassidish posters. These are people who really, really respect their Gedolim. And rightfully so. And while they don’t respect them just as much as we respect the Rebbe (as you can see from the past 23 pages), they get pretty close [1]. So practically, there’s absolutely no way that you’ll be able to argue with their Gedolim, as you simply don’t have the stature. So unless you want to close this thread (and get yourself banned, while you’re at it), I would keep the topic theoretical, as you’ll never come to a conclusion as to “who’s right”. Especially, I would hope that no one would change their Hashkafa through an internet chat room. If you do, there are way bigger problems with your Yiddishkeit than Lubavitch/Misnagdim fights.

[1]. Try getting a really Yeshivish person to say the words “The Chazon Ish said X. That was just wrong of him, and we’re suffering from his mistake to this day. We should have done Y. He’s human, he erred”. They’ll squirm, and will feel blasphemous uttering such a sentence. Just as we’d feel saying such a thing about the Rebbe.