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Rso: “As I don’t consider the lubavicher rebbe a gadol beYisroel, and, as I have written, I see him as someone who had a lot of “talent” but who allowed himself to “stray” from the straight and narrow, I certainly feel that I can argue with what he says. I understand that you see it differently.I don’t”

Can you explain what is a godel? Who fits the criteria? And why you don’t see the Rebbe as a godel? And same with a tzadik. Please

For some reason you guys call every Joe schmo a godel or a tzadik. But the Rebbe Cv”s not.

And if you can explain the Gemorah in it’s words, how it means the way you learn it. Because it doesn’t seem that your learning the Gemorah correctly.

“as you claim, hold that ALL gedolim hold like I do, but I do hold that many of them do, and in that we can include virtually all the litvishe velt.”

Names please, and what exactly they said.
Your opinion is worthless.
(I think your the one that is lacking derech eretz).

“Therefore, making sure our kids and talmidim aren’t exposed to danger and have a high level of kedushah is our number one priority. And the proof that your derech is very dangerous is what I have been writing about all the time: lack of tznius, and worse, in lubavich”

Just to note the facts, shluchims kids (which by default are exposed) are way more frum/chassidish and mechunich, better then all the rest of the Lubavitche that doesn’t go on shlichus and stay in crown heights ( not all but nice percentage). So I don’t think the Rebbes plan for shlichus is affecting our on kids.

And if you wore trying to be negative or not i think we can all agree that shluchim have just a little more mesiras nefesh, then the ones that stay in the community to be in kolel or rosh yeshiva.
And btw just to note, i happened to have an uncle to that’s on shlichus for nice amount of years and he doesn’t have a kehilah, doesn’t get any kovod, all he does is visiting people and speak to them to do more mitzvos. etc. And I happen to be by a shliach recently that does the same. With no normal income, And believe me it’s hard work, so don’t just upmach the whole thing.

Regarding the problems and storys you say about us, I can say the same about you guys (just for some reason I don’t see a reason to speak about it), I hang around alot of litvishe/chassidish bochurim that do plenty of terrible stuff, which I won’t even try to put it in words, (and they come from a officially good yeshiva), so please stop bringing up problems, because like I said before no one is perfect. Each kreis has different problems that are worse then the other.

Username: tzuvishin dir un mir, I know want they say about lubavitch, and what the Rebbe said back, just i never heard in my life people for example rso. saying such crazy things about the Rebbe and chabad, saying that all the Rebbe did was for his on koved….. Friediker Rebbe that all he wrote is fiction……. and that we are aovid avodah zarah, because we write a tzetul to the Rebbe, (just like other chassidim write a kevitul to their Rebbe, and litvaks to Rav Shtieman zatzal, (even after he past away) and for some reason no one calls them aovid avodah zarah). And claims that Chabad are koifrim…. (All this without mekoirs.. just because it’s new musogim to them), so after all that, I do intend to know from him exactly where does he base his opinion on, And then we can have a conversation between what did the gedoilim say and what the Rebbe said, (we don’t have to come to an agreement, and they also didn’t).

Just to note today is zoz Chanukah (a guteh kvitul to everyone) this year we are celebrating the anniversary of the geulah of Sholom Mordecai Rubashkin, for one reason or another, all the yiddin and gedoilim and rabbeim from litvish to chassidish davend for him while he was in jail, and when he got out, thousands upon thousands of people came to celebrate his geulah, and this year too in boro park.
Now if Lubavitche are koifrim, and aovid avodah zarah, mishichistim, etc. etc. Why did almost all gedoilim from all walks of life (including Rabbi Pinchas lefshitz which is the head of a newspaper that used to be very anti Lubavitch) meet with him, and daven for him? ( No one bothered to ask what’s his hashkofa).

Actually regarding this day which brought achdus between yeddin, I think we should focus on what unites us, and not the opposite.

Maybe we should have a decision about adding in our avodah, and how can we do Hashems rotzion properly.