Reply To: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us!

YR: “I.e., those Lubavichers who deify the Rebbe.

I don’t think you’re like that, CS, but Beis Moshiach’s editors are most certainly closet elokists. They once printed Arnie Gottfried’s article that ended “Hu Elokeinu? The Rebbe, MH”M that’s who”. Which is indefensible, and they rightly got called out for it. But I don’t believe for a moment they’ve changed their shittos. Beis Moshiach’s editors have an agenda, and it’s poisoning Chabad. BTW Gottfried is the one who wrote one of the biggest pro-meshichist proof books in English, and I’ve seen his books in multiple meshichist Chabad houses. So even after that kefiradig article, he’s still considered mainstream by meshichistin.

Furthermore, Sichas Hageula almost never refers to the Shechina as the shechina, rather they always refer to it as “Atzmus Umehus”. Recent example: On Parshas vayera they wrote “it’s time to turn to HKB”H and ask him “Atzmus Umahus, please take us out of Galus!” There’s no reasonable reason for them to write this that way – except if they have a hidden agenda.

Sichas Hageula once called the Rebbe “Hakodosh Baruch Hu in a Body” years ago, and they got called out for it as well. But that doesn’t seem to spot it from appearing in meshichists homes.”

Listen I find this very disturbing and have never heard of it before. On the other hand you were quick to call me a quasi kofer for awhile and still seem to think of Rabbi wolf that way although I know that is really not true. I heard him speak myself on several occasions by nshei crown heights events etc and when I looked up that problematic quote in the magazine I saw straight away what it meant and it wasn’t how you were presenting it.

So likely, the same applies here. As you know when there was an actual case of people who were ostensibly lubavitch going against halacha under the lubavitch banner, they were put into cherem.

Now we in lubavitch are the last ones to rush to do that and we take it very seriously. Interestingly I have met Dr. Gotfryd
myself, and never heard anything like what you describe. Not that I heard him that much but still. Maybe what happened was he wrote that article and was immediately called out on it and explained how wrong it was etc. and then he recanted and has not relapsed since? Well if that’s what happened then there would be no reason to oust him from lubavitch.

In any case he is not regarded as anything special. I did come across his book in high school and was very skeptical about the whole Rambam part of his book. He is definitely not a Rav of any sort. And beis Moshiach I don’t subscribe to but whenever I have read an issue I have never found any issues with it certainly nothing like you describe. Sorry I can’t provide a better explanation- im lubavitch myself and have never heard of this. And I don’t intend to go researching dirt either. If one of the other lubavitchers has heard of this and knows more clarifying info that would be good to see.

Finally, it is quite a jump to say that because you can name one person who wrote something outrageous, the whole lubavitch needs to do some serious purging because we have a serious festering problem within. One individual who recanted does not equal a festering lubavitcher kefira problem cvs.