“No. My objection is, as I have written too many times already, that there the concept of Nossi Hador is not applicable to anyone alive or who was alive for the last thousands (I wrote hundreds in the past, but I think it’s in the thousands) of years. ”
From the mekoirios brought before its says that the concept of nossi hador is in every generation (no matter how resent)…… And you say “concept of Nossi Hador is not applicable to anyone alive or who was alive for the last thousands…of years”. Very interesting.
Furthermore, the mekoros that you quoted above that there is ONE tzaddik with a nitzotz are from a very few seforim, with the Zohar saying in at least one place (as someone pointed out in Tikunnim, I believe) that it is 600,000 neshamos in each dor.
I can explain if you wish (don’t think it will help)
“Yes, I do have names, and ask chassidim of many other rebbes and they may be willing to tell you names. Unlike you and others, however, I don’t believe in citing names in a public forum when I am sure the people whose names I would cite would not want to be cited! So just because I don’t cite names it doesn’t mean I don’t have the names.”
“No. I won’t supply names of people who would not want to be mentioned. I understand that you may therefore decide not to believe me, but I know that I am telling the truth.”
When people do stuff in public, and wore not embarrassed, because they know it’s true, and they’re doing it cuz it’s rights, I will mention their names, because they say it in public, that they hold of the Rebbe. And those are the names I quoted above.
If the people you hold of, say otherwise why are they embarrassed to say it publicly? Aderabeh if they think they are right, they should publicize their shita, that no one should make CV”s a mistake of holding of the Rebbe. And Lubavitch.
So maybe they are afraid to argue with so many Rebbeim and tamidei chavhomim that held of the Rebbe and Chabad chassidus??
“I don’t see a difference between telling a non frum person to do a mitzvah, and telling a goiy to do a mitzvah”
“To me the difference is obvious. There is a din or arvus when it comes to Yidden, but no din of arvus when it comes to goyim.
As to the Rambam you keep quoting, I have already replied that it doesn’t apply nowadays as we can’t do what the Rambam finishes off his halocho with, i.e. punishing those who don’t in beis din. Don’t you think it noteworthy that the Rambam writes specifically לכוף which means “force” them to keep mitzvos? Is that what the lubavicher rebbe said to do?”
No he said to tell them about it. Because obviously we can’t לכוף nowadays.
Just because bies din can’t force upon us nowadays ד’ מיתת בית דין therefore we shouldn’t tell yiddin to keep shabbos??? Or for that matter for us to keep shabbos??? Cs”v.
The same oibershther that told us to keep 613 and we have a chiyuv to keep them whether you get malkus or not, the same is with the goiyem, they have a chiyuv to keep 7 mitzvahs benei noach. And therefore we should encourage them to keep them.
whether you like it or not.
Surprise you say otherwise, and not only that you say, “stam mishigasim”
And just to note, why are you allowed to do business with goyeim, and hang around them for a whole day, and it’s not a problem of arvus, but when you meet a goiy in the street and tell them nicely about the mitzvos Hashem wants them do fulfill, it’s somehow a problem of arvus.??
“Good question, but the same I can’t understand how he had Ruach hakodesh and did miracles, the same to is with this. Maybe he just was not an ordinary person.”
That doesn’t answer the question. If the Rambam paskened it as a halocho it means it applies to every Yid during his lifetime. This is something your rebbe believed as he always spoke about the primacy of halocho….
Did he ever take that shvuah? He just didn’t sleep those days.
And some how punked now you bring up that the Rebbe always spoke about the primacy of halacha, but in the past you say straight out that he didn’t respect halacha.
“And yes the Rebbe had a bed in is room, but that was only in the last five years after the rebbitzim past away.”
??? How does that show anything at all. 1. Before she passed away he went home every night so he didn’t need a bed in his office. 2. The person who told me the story was talking about the early 80s before the rebbetzin passed away”
I think we missed understood each other, my point was that the maskirim knew exactly when the went, home, and came to 770, and therefore knew how much he slept, besides the last 5 years they couldn’t tell, because he had a bed in his office.
After all this time I don’t think there is a point in continuing the conversation, because you are not willing to bring even one person that your shitas are based off, after claiming that “most gedoilim don’t hold of the Rebbe”, and your opinion is worthless, whether you personally hold of the Rebbe as a tzadik or not, he knew ten times more then you, (not my opinion, but the opinion of many talmidei chachomim, some which met him personally), and that’s besides the point that he had Ruach hakodesh, and did many miracles. And your not only arguing with the Rebbe himself but all the rebbiem, gedolim, and talmedei chachomim which held of him, Lubavitch, and Chabad chassidus.
Don’t get me wrong, your allowed to ask questions, but you can’t come to conclusions
Hashem should give you all the brochois.
Hatzlocha in all your endeavors.