Reply To: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us!

SH:
“Two come to mind immediately, Shlomo Carlebach and Zalman “Shalomi” Schechter.”

Yup that’s who I had in mind.

“At risk of sounding crude, I’m going to say this anyway. The Rebbe wasn’t the fluffy and fuzzy character portrayed on JEM clips lovingly giving out dollars to all those who came. The Rebbe had principles, very storong ones. The Rebbe was absolutely uncompromising on his stances, and did not back down.”

I never thought otherwise. But there’s a difference between standing strong on your principles, and throwing PEOPLE out. With all the thousands of people the Rebbe came in contact with, and the thousands of chassidim you can probably count the ousted people on one hand. And that’s a good thing. To be elaborated on further down…

“The Rebbe was similarly outraged at SBV when he came out with his infamous book, and forbade him from ever writing about Moshiach again, in very harsh terms.”

Really? I thought the story was that when he dropped flyers all over EY saying the Rebbe is moshiach the Rebbe told him to pick them up. And being a chossid, he did. Id be interested to see where you got your information from or if it was made up.

“One can only imagine the Rebbes reaction to much of what is going on in Lubavitch today, and to the Call of the Shofar episode.”

I was at the CH asifa and came away very impressed with how they handled it. The message wasnt one of knocking or ousting the people who went or playing the blame game, the Rabbanim and mashpiim who spoke emphasised that even if it was all kosher (it was still being investigated) why go to other sources when we have Chassidus? And they spoke in that vein – maybe people think chassidus is just for beinonim up etc. As a result several hachlotos were taken, one of which the Chassidus applied series by Rabbi Jacobson is still ongoing today. And we don’t hear of the call of the shofar since then. And there were some strict steps taken with a Mashpia who had gone etc. I think it was very much in line with the Rebbe’s approach. Like i have said, ahavas yisrael means for your own community as well.

“CS, I think you may have bought the image we often sell to Mekurovim about a fluffy and fuzzy Rabbi, with a silky long beard who loves everything and everyone unconditionally, no questions asked. This is a disgrace of everything the Rebbe stands for.”

Nope but it’s not about ousting people its about being true to the truth without waffling and standing up for whats right. For example, Rabbi Emmanuel Schochet pulled a prank with some other bochurim in Yeshiva where they switched around the books in the library and piled up the furniture.

They were expelled. He didn’t really care because he was almost done, but then he heard they were telling the Rebbe that they had damaged books and property which they hadn’t. So to set the record right he wrote to the Rebbe what had happened.

The Rebbe wrote back that he should please come back to Yeshiva but some teshuva was in order and the Rebbe said he should learn some prakim derech chaim (on teshuva) and fast a few half days. He wasn’t too happy about it but he agreed.

Later on he wanted to work and the Rebbe wanted him to write but he was concerned about parnassa. So the Rebbe offered him to work with the mazkirus. And many more incidents.

Here you see the balance by sending a clear message
About right and wrong but working with the indivisible instead of coldly ousting them. As I said if the Rebbe had ousted people left right and center we would have lost many precious neshamos as well as much of our talent.

“Once again, I apologise in advance if my words have hurt you, I have nothing against you, it’s the false ideology that I hate.”

Lol no offense taken especially as I don’t disagree that you must have limits and say whats right.