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“Of course not, because if a Chabadnik says outright the Rebbe is not Moshiach anywhere but on the internet he gets run out of Chabad.”

Na like I said we are not into ousting people except in severe cases with no alternative, and that certainly wouldn’t qualify. Ironically I meant it the opposite way that teachers are afraid to talk about it in many cases because parents will get upset that were discussing something controversial that they’d rather avoid especially with the painful gimmel tammuz memories.

“But the Rebbe is not, cannot be, and will not be Moshiach. There’s a good reason why no nonlubavichers believe it. It doesn’t fit according to any halachos at all.”

Funny you say that because there definitely is place to say that in either case. Sdei chemed and Abarbanel say the preferable option is from the dead. Rashi and medrash say moshiach will be revealed and then concealed before he is finally revealed. We were discussing SPECIFICALLY the Rambam which i doubt you have studied much in depth yourself if you write so dismissively.

“I’ve seen Chabadniks twist the Rambam more than the Christians twist the Torah to get their Moshiach to fit.”

Ignoring the d is respectful comparison, yeah there are many lubavitchers who haven’t studied the Rambam in depth and have only surface level understanding. I’ll admit I wrote some nonsense up myself when questioned on the Rambam the first time this came up on the 19 p thread, so I realized when I was shown why what I was saying didn’t hold up very well that I had better get better educated on the topic before I comment further on it. Which I have now. There is still more to look into (mm etc.) but I think I have an understanding that has satisfied me (I have challenged 5 people on the topic) and am happy to look further if something doesn’t hold up.