I’m sorry for breaking the silence. I said I will respond.
Chabad chassidus as taught by the earlier rebbes certainly has what to offer to those seeking that line of thought. ”
There is no difference between the chassidus thought by earlier Rebbeim and the Rebbe it’s all one hemshech and based on each other.
“But, as your compatriot username pointed out recently, others believe that that is not the line of thought that should be sought,”
For some reason you always focus on the people that don’t agree with Lubavitch, do you know that so many of your neighbors don’t think like you.
Day by day there is only more people learn chassidus chabad, not less.
Only a few days ago a chassidish Yeshiva of about 100 talmidim came to visit a Lubavitcher Yeshiva, and learn chassidus with them.
A few months ago another Yeshiva came to 770 to visit (as a end of the zman trip) and learn all about Lubavitche and learn chassidus.
That’s just a few samples.
“Furthermore, many people look at the situation in lubavich today and believe that all of the movement’s faults (SOME examples: lack of tznius, davening past the zman, unfiltered internet) are a direct result of lubavich concentrating on limud hachassidus and their obsession with Mashiach.”
Can I ask you the question, how do you blame the problem of the litvish and chassidish have on the lack of tzius and daven after the zman, unfiltered internet???
Would you blame it on the Torah they learn all day???
Just because the yeddin do aveiros, that is a rayeh that the Torah is wrong C’s”v? Would you say such?
It has no connection to chassidus and moshiach, Aderabeh chassidus and moshiach, is the reason why chabad is growing by the hundreds, and the reason why Lubavitche is still so successful even after 25 years of gimmul tamus.
The reason why there is a lack of tzius, is simply because there is a yetzer horah in the world that is very strong, which interferes you from doing what you learn is right.
“They therefore conclude that it is a lot safer to keep away from chabad and their chassidus and to decline what it may have to offer.”
They are entitled to their opinion.
But the fact is people that learn chabad chassidus only are moisif and grow in their yeddishkeit, not Cv”s the opposite. Check the statistics.
“Your rebbe spent “nights sitting with people in yechidus”, but how many nights a year was that? It wasn’t every night, and it was rarely if ever during the day.”
Are you asking a question or stating a fact?
Yechidus was for the first 20 year then it pretty much stopped, out of lack of time, and this was most nights of the week.
Then later in the last years he stood for hours, sometimes 7 hours straight during the day, and gave out dollars and gave brochois to thousands of people. Yes even chassidisher people.
“Did you know that there are other rebbes who spent every day and every night worrying about Klal Yisroel helping them individually and as a klal? And they don’t take money for it either. ”
I wasn’t trying to compare the money, but now that you mention it. Yes it’s very possible, and probably are some that don’t take money.
And I just find it funny, when there is advertisement of kupas hoeir etc. That say that this godol or Rebbe will be davaning for only 150 names Al tenai that give a x amount of money. I don’t know if it’s the Rebbe or the gabboim, but it’s quite funny.
“It’s not as if your rebbe didn’t get money from others for his own projects.”
He did get money. But the brochois and advice and time he sat with people wasn’t Al tenai you gave him money. Adrebe at the end of some yechidus he gave money.
“There were big donors who gave money to lubavich and it was this money that was used by your rebbe at Sunday’s dollars, or to finance Likutei Sichos etc.”
It was given by two Lubavitcher gevirim. No one else.
“It is shoved down our throats by your incessant propaganda machine! Wherever we go we see posters claiming your rebbe is Mashiach and/or how we can call a number and get answers to all our questions via the igros, ”
I’m sorry you feel that way.
But I can agree that this moshiach and igrus thing is just garbage the Rebbe never said to do these stuff.
But it doesn’t give you an excuse to bad mouth people and say loshen horoah.
“Sichat Hashavua, in our shules where we didn’t ask for them”
I don’t get the problem with this.
But why does this pamphlet bother you more than any other pamphlets and advertisements put on tables in shul.
It just has a good vort on the parsha.
“Even this thread was started by CS giving us an unbid explanation of how lubavich is right that we are in a state of Geulah. No one asked her for her views but she felt “compelled” to tell us all about it. ”
Again I totally agree with you on this point.
It’s wrong.
“Then when we push back and argue that it is a bunch of garbage and point out why we can’t take lubavich seriously we are accused of looking for ways to badmouth lubavich!’
Again it’s not an excuse.
But I would understand you if the arguments was just on her point. But for some reason everyone just starts bringing up other made up problems, nothing to do with her topic.
That’s why I just see it as bad mouthing Lubavitche .
We should all be carful of saying loshen horoah.
“כל המספר לשן הרע כאילו כפר בעיקר”
We should focus on אהבת ישראל and אחדות ישראל.
“I am not a Litvak, but I have been disgusted to hear people say “Shach yemach shmoi” on more than one, and more than ten occasions.”
I never heard a single Lubavitcher saying that, I don’t where your hearing this from.
“and they are mechanech kids that way too, kids who don’t even know who Rav Shach was.”
Where do you even get such info from?
I never heard this in my life, I never heard of Rav Shach as a kid till I listened to the Rebbes Farbrengens. And the same is with the rest of Lubavitche.
So i don’t know where in the world you get such stuff from.
edited for Kavod haTorah