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ubiquitin
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Look KY
you are mixing up two issues.

You can argue that stopping leydig-geirs from doing something productive with their lives is an important cause and warrants blocking traffic including ambulances even without permission.
However that is not the subject of this thread.

This thread is about “Why is it OK to block off huge traffic arteries to make a parade, but when people protest a ” perceived “travesty or injustice, they get tremendous condemnation.”

THAT is what is being addressed. I (and others) are explaing the difference between permission and non-permission (note: not between parades and protests. parades are wrong without our permission and protests are fine with going through the proper channels, and yes there are of course times occasionally without going through the proper channels, but THOse arent justified because parades are ok)

You throw in ““All it takes is a phone call and a few bucks.”” but this is the whole distiction.

You ramble on about protests and the point of them. And you may even be right, I agree that protests occasionally justify inconveniencing others.
But they arent comparable to parades. Which is the theme of this thread.

Lets go back to my excellent driveway mashal.
1) We agree that blocking my driveway is wrong.
2) Now of course we agree that if you have permission (from me or anyone authorized to give permission like YOUR neighbor (not quite sure how he got that power but you say he did)) then you can block my driveway
3) We also agree (I assume) that in certain emergencies (eg an ambulance tending to my neighbor) blocking the driveway is also justified.
(let me know if you disagree with any of the above 3 points)

Now You want to block my driveway for something you deem important. picking up lunch, catching minyan, or whatever the case may be. Your justification for blocking it makes zero sense if you say “well you (or your representative) let Chaim block it when he dropped off a package (ie # 2), clearly having your driveway blocked doesn’t bother you, so Ican block it for reasons important to me” This makes zero sense, and is the question you asked in your OP.

On the other hand saying “Well in an emergency blocking your driveway is ok (#3) and this was an emergency because xyz…” THAT would make sense. OF course it would shift the discussion to how important the emergency is. But that is NOT the subject of this thread