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you are right regarding the discussion there. (I asked a confused individual who thought if something is’nt explicitly mentioned as assur then it wasn’t I asked him if that meant it was ok for a goy to be meanes an unmarried woman, he didint answer and you threw in this question though I’m not sure the relevance there (and thats what I “responded” there).
You seem to be making a similar mistake here.
A few questions if you don’t mind
Is it ok for a goy to be meanes an unmarried woman?
whats the punishment for molesting a child?
What the punishment for killing someone without eidim?
Another obvious mistake is this one “Yet from the embarrassment angle, they are both the same.” Obviously you dont mean that (I hope)
Also I’m not sure what this is doing on this thread.
This was the original thread https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/waiters-finger-was-in-my-my-soup