Reply To: learning from an artscroll

I find with artscroll two problems:
1) learning a daf one time with artscroll and no more is a segulah to forget all the teisch words and it will be impossible to remember the shakla vtarya.
I have to learn it at least one time without any artscrolling in order to remember it. This is not commonly done.
2)even if one knows how to lein a gemara, after using artscroll for a while they will forget.