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“pps if a worldview shaped by clear (to me) rayoos from multiple georahs plus an explicit rambam that another poster posted her, is warped, im proud to have such warped thinking.”
Wowah easy slow down you are confusing yourself. Or me.
I missed any of the rayaahs you brought to your view. True you brought some raayahs that generally we judge based on severity, though I wouldn’t call them raayahs its an expliocit gemara. But that wasnt the discussion. The question was whether it was absolute.
(I’m also not sure which poster that mentioned a Rambam you are referring to)
and shame on you for calling a Gemara warped. If it seems warped that is your chisaron, work on understanding the Gemara/Rambam. OR submit that you dont understand it. but that doesnt make it warped
At any rate, I was under the impression that you (now?) agree that there ARE exceptions to the general rule.
Our dispute is if this is yet another exception or not.
Do I have these last two lines wrong?
“we need not debate “slippery slope” ”
I’m glad, it isnt much of a debate. . Ive found that “slippery slope” arguments are an illogical desperate argument made in a last ditch effort to support an untenable position. It can be (and has been) used to support any and every position imaginable.
Or put another way, slippery slope arguments are a slippery slope towards justifying absolutely anything you want to do.
“i’ll stick with trying to accept hashems opinion wether or not i understand it.”
Lol thanks that made me laugh (א ביטערע געלעכטער). Its totally ratzon Hashem that if Ploni rapes a penuya and olmoni tells others about it. We should view olmoni as the biggger rasha
Before ending this wonderful discussion though. If you dont mind my summarizing just so that I have your position clear:
You grant that there are exceptions to the general rule that severity of averia is judged by the severity of the punishment. However you do not believe rape is such an exception.
Do I have that right?