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ubiquitin
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“Do I agree this is an exception? No. Why would I?”

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The “why would I” is very telling as is EXACTLY what I was referring to in my orignal comment.

“Yes as I said before As bad as you feel rape is, and it is, לשה”ר is worse.
Why does that bother you?”

It bothers me becasue it isnt true. Ask someone who has had both done to them.

“Simply because we all are נכשול in לשה”ר constantly so we’ve lost our sensitivity to it.”
So if you heard of a society that was perfect in lashon harah but was nichshal in rape, that would be a better society than ours?

and you are stuck saying to the girl who told her rapist “Take my money leave me alone”
that she was wrong, she should have let the person be meanes her since stealing is worse.
(Again, this is your position right?) Something that absolutely makes no sense

This idea that you cant use your mind or senses to evaluate things is foreign to Judaism.
The Gemara asks regarding “anaf eitz avos” if it is some other min, and syas it cant be that becasue they are posinous and has thorns and דרכיה דרכי נועם

The Gemara does not then say, so we see that it isnt poisonous and the thorns dont hurt?
That question would make no sense. We see that it is and they do.

And I’m not sure what you are proving from the chofetz Chayim.
either way it is a rayah against your narrow position.
There he says Rechilus is worse than murder.
Yet murder has a worse punishment

So either it is yet another exception
Or it isnt literal (If only it was literal, could you imagine there were only 7 things Hashem hated? things would sure be easier)