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“It’s less severe than many other sins. However the grand scale that he did the smaller sin on, adds up.”
Lol, this is a new argument. do you have a source for it? So how many rapes would be worse than stealing a pen? Is raping 6 million people worse than stealing a pen?
“Do you need me to source for you the idea that one sin plus one sin equals two sins and therefore equals more punishment?”
Yes, under your rubric doing 2 aveiros that get malkos is without question “better” than an aveira that gets misa
ditto for 3, 10, 1000 etc
I’m confused so if a person has a choice to eat cheilev or steal once, he should eat cheilev, twice? 10 times? 1000 times. At what point does it stealing become worse?
At any rate do you not see how you have totally abandoned your entire second premise. Namely that worse punishment equals worse sin. It now doesn’t apply if there are lots of lower sins.
but what if it was a really big “lower sin” If Hitler only said once “lets kill all the JEws” that wouldn’t be many small sins.
Or would it, just so you can stick to your untenable position ?
“Don’t see how that is different than anything I’ve been saying all along”
Because it goes against your entire thesis. since inciting mass murder gets a lower punishment than stealing, according to you it is not as bad .
Put mass murder aside. whats worse hiring a hit man (inciting 1 murder) or stealing?
“Did a rabbi really say this???”
more than one. I heard this from Rabbi Shurkin years ago. and more recently Rav of shul (almost verbatim the same thing both made the sedom refrence, Rabbi shurkin used the specific midrashim like they would all steal a shava peruta to avoid being culpable.
Leshitascha they were right. If a group of us rob a man blind by each stealing < a peruta. We are not as bad as someone who stole a dollar . Correct