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klugeryid
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For some reason I did not see that there were any new responses to this thread till just now (Sunday morning first day סליחות )(see my other post regarding comments not being noted in real time)
You wrote allot
I don’t have time till after succos to go piece by piece
I’ll try to respond to all in short and from memory

Multiple of one sin is worse than single of the same sin.
Sourced all over.
Based on the gemarah עבר ושנה נעשית כהיתר
I believe שיחות מוסר discusses it

In שמים they can judge based on many things
We don’t decide הלכה based on that. That was good for before we got. The Torah. Source נפש החיים. בית הלוי others.

Kings can basically do what they want. Can’t learn out from them.

You are confusing negative learning and positive declaration. To say take a סנה even though it’s prickly would require a source do to the issue of דרכי נועם.that’s positive learning.
To say it can’t be, keep looking, doesn’t need a source. There is nothing forcing you to say it is, it’s trying on and discarding. Why should I get stuck on a סנה maybe it’s a toothbrush?
That a Thornbush is prickly is not a sevarah. You need to source a sevarah. Not a fact.
Can we think for ourselves? Not only we can. We must. But not to create new guidelines in Torah. Yes the ראשונים can they were pure. We are not.
Source all over. Ask your rabbi.

I asked if a rabbi actually said my question /position is so odd base even in סדום they wouldn’t say it.
You responded by telling me the story of סדום
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My question about פרעה ואבימלך
Strange you couldn’t find a source
Maybe shut your phone and open a Chumash.
It’s open פסוקים
דינה? ע רשי לאנוס ”הבתולות” עיין שפתי חכמים העונש היה רק בשביל גזל. עיין אור החיים שכתב הא דלא נהנה!! ממעשה שכם משום כל טובתם של רשעים רעה אצל צדיקים

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