Reply To: Can the severity of a sin be learned from the severity of the punishment?

ubiq
sorry they are not pesukim
they are the idea quoted in hebrew
hkbh agreed to avimelech that he had pure intentions
id consider the story of sarah & avimelech or paroh rape like any other
he never bothered to ask her permission
by paroh ותוקח האשה בית פרעה
they forcibly took her. not sure what you are talking about that its not classic rape
stautory rape is where she agrees but the law doesnt allow her agreement to stand due to any amount of extenuating circumstances (age/ inebriation…)
why did dovid hamelech feel that way? because he felt that stealing from a pauper is worse than staeling from a rich man
much as i would assume the same thing
but were i to execute someone based on that id be a murderer
a king can do what he wants
has nothing to do with our topic
the torah lists many types of rape with all sorts of punishments spelled out for each
it strangely leaves one type out
youd say thats because its so horrible its obviously worse than any of the others
id say its because the punishments its not as bad
i brought many proofs that the first step to analyzing the severity of a crime is from its punishmant
i openly agree that there are numerous exceptions, however they require an unimpeachable source.
you keep harping on the quantity of exceptions as if thats meaningful. its not.
you can bring millions of exceptions
as long as they are sourced its not a question on me.
the sifsay chachomim says shechem was killed because he stole dina
look there in the or hachaim
avimelech was pure because as a king he had the right to take any woman he wanted much as he could take any property provided she wasnt married
the proofs are many
but you are not open to the possibility
i used to feel like you but the details didnt add up
but im the closed minded one who does not employ critical thinking
i never got your issue with hitting vs maiming so i have no comment on that
i think ive said all i can so i will leave the floor to you but i thank you for a very enjoyable back and forth(if only yeshiva world would post in a more timely fashion)