You seem a bit confused here so let me give you the relevant posts in chronological order as listed here.
(you can always go back and check to make sure I’m not leaving out anything important or misrepresenting.”
I did and you are misunderstanding I dont think misrepresenting
“Op.
You are voting for a party that is actively advocating for abortion and tuvya marriages. There is no sugar coating the fact that you are the Hellenist b’zman ha’zeh…
“(note, no mention of abortion in extenuating circumstances. Not opening a discussion on the possibility of abortion in Jewish law. Rather a condemnation on voting democrat, specifically due to two of the parties platforms. One of which is abortion rights)”
yep in the OP no mention, thats why I didnt comment . The mention comes later
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” so I would consider that you came into this conversation after me.”
Nope. I was replying to Joseph’s question not yours
“To which r Eliezer responded
February 19, 2020 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm#1833327REPLY
Reb EliezerParticipant
You are fooling yourself when it comes to abortion. No one does abortion for the sake of it. The rich will travel wherever it is allowed and the poor will endanger themselves.”
Yes nailed it! Reb elizer said “No one does abortion for the sake of it”
Again “No one does abortion for the sake of it”
and again becasue you somehow missed this in your thorough analysis,:
“No one does abortion for the sake of it”
With me , so we are NOT talking about abortion of convinance rather of neccesity.
Stay with me this is crucial.
Becasue THIS is what the conversatin was about when I joined. (note at this point your sole comment was about weighing Trump’s benefits vs chisronos NOt about the topic I comented on)
“To which Josef responded
Reb Eliezer, I’m really shocked that you support abortion being legal.”
Which engendered your comment that r Eliezers they is in line with the Torah,”
Yes! absolutely becasue The Torah allows abortion out of necessity. now of course Our definition of “necessity” will differ from someone elese’s In a perfect world The law willl be Every abortion needs rabbinic approval. Obviously there is no way to legislate that. So the next best thingis to ahve the government step out. Frum people will (and do) discuss i with a Rabbi. Not frum people are not my primary concern
“whereupon I asked where exactly do you have a basis for such an outlandish claim.”
Yep this is where you joined, welcome to the conversation! glad to have you we are talking about abortions of necessity NOT “abortions for the sake of it”
Follow it through
I did
“Op says democrats are awful because they glorify the right for abortions (which is clearly referring to all abortions not just fetal reduction ET Al)
R E says republicans are worse because they don’t care about anybody”
A great point, not one that I commented on though.
“Upon which Josef expressed surprise that r e would support legalizing abortions (clearly, follow along now, the abortions we’ve been discussing, meaning ALL abortions including the majority of them which are just convenience)”
Nope this part is not quite right
“To which you said it’s the Torah view”
Because it (allowing abortions based on necessity ) is
“And that’s where I challenged you to provide a source.”
And I provided more than one