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Floyd was not high. He was drunk, so read the article.

Floyd was high on fentanyl and possibly also meth, which he had recently used.

I cannot find a source on the internet that he was involved in armed robbery; I don’t see how that bears any relevance on the subject at hand, either way.

If you haven’t found it you haven’t looked. He did five years for armed robbery, and had multiple other convictions for armed robbery and for drug offenses. And this is relevant because it goes to what kind of person he was and therefore how much sympathy we should have for him and how upset we should be that he’s dead.

There is no such as thing as mace or taser not working. It ALWAYS work on ANYONE.

Excuse me? You have no idea at all what you’re talking about. If you can say this then you’re just not a serious person.

The term rioter could refer to someone who is burning a car, smashing a window etc. Such a person could hardly be called a threat.

That is just wrong. Anyone rioting is BY DEFINITION presumed to be a threat to everyone’s safety. They do not have to literally be a threat to anyone’s actual life; the threat of serious bodily harm is enough to justify deadly force. And while in many states a mere threat to property is not enough to justify deadly force, that changes if it’s a threat to premises, e.g. by arson or looting. I’m not sure if there’s even one state where one may not use deadly force to prevent arson.

dont just plow through a whole crowd of them

This is unfortunately not the current law, but in my opinion it ought to be completely legal for anyone who is going about his legitimate business and is being deliberately obstructed to ignore the obstruction and plow through or over it, and if the obstructors are injured or killed that is their problem. I would have absolutely no moral compunctions about doing so, whether we’re talking about union pickets, people blocking highways, or lying in front of bulldozers or trains, or anything else. Of course one should first attempt to get the police to clear the obstruction, but if they are unable or unwilling to do so then force becomes necessary and should be used.