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thanks!
Oldcrownheights
“This I don’t get. The study showed a decrease in hospitalizations: I take this to mean that among those who took the Zelenko Protocol (HCQ+Zinc+) fewer patients got sick enough to require hospitalization. This sounds like a win”
It is!
however.
there is another problem with the study.
whenever a study is down to show a difference you need to look at the baseline characteristics of the two groups. For example If I did a demonstration to show that my new detergent works better than the one you use, it wouldn’t be very meaningful if I showed you that by using my new detergent to clean mildly dirty laundry compared to your detergent on say, grass and blood stains . Fair?
Look at his Group A in which he treated all aged > 60.
How many of these 69 patients were over 70? zero! (easiest to say in table 2 of his study)
In the general population how many of those older than 60 are older than 70?
About half (data from statista)
How many of them have COPD ? Zero!
How many of the general population > 60 has COPD ? About 10%*
So his treatment group of those > 60 are younger and healthier than the general population
Of course they had fewer hospitalizations! Who is to say that is due to HCQ?
Please don;t take my word for it. Look at his study table 2 . Where this data is outlined
* unfortunately we dont know much about the control group he is comparing it to ” Independent public reference data from 377 confirmed COVID-19 patients of the same community were used as untreated control” We have no idea anything about them . I’m assuming they are representative of the US population in Age/comorbidities. But we dont know they could be much older and sicker or younger . I’m assuming average
“Certainly the opponents to HCQ aren’t claiming that Zelenko’s patients stayed home and died. So what do they mean?”
See my other response directed to 2scents
“If the protocol doesn’t decrease OVERALL DEATH, but helps (the people who might not DIE even without the protocol) prevent the need from hospitalization and the long crazy battle to beat the virus is that not reason enough to take the protocol?”
I absolutely is! I’m sorry if by saying “only hospitalizations” I downplayed that. That is huge. I think people should quote it accurately though (plus the other big problem as mentioned above that the case and control are not necessarily comparable))