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The assumptions here are breathtaking.
I am Canadian by birth and a Permanent Resident in the US. I have been a conservative for almost 30 years, since shortly after I was old enough to vote. I’ve worked on conservative campaigns, raised money for conservative causes, lobbied on conservative and “republican’ issues in Canada and in the US, met with Federal and cabinet officials and representatives, Prime Ministers, White House staff, and and congressional reps on these issues. I’ve fundraised for conservative candidates, and knocked on doors with them in their districts. Does anybody here who screams MAGA at the top of their lungs have these experiences and credentials? Who are you to call me or the many like me a socialist? You haven’t done the work; You probably haven’t even bothered to vote half the time.
People like me feel that this President, though he has done several things that were good for Am Yisroel, is in almost every other respect unfit to lead. He has no moral code or compass. Take, for example, his opposition to abortion. Good. Nu, who here isn’t, in all but the most specific circumstances? AH. But he was OK taking the Regeneron drug last week, made from human fetuses. For him, experimentally and with anecdotal effectiveness, it was OK. But for others, the product of abortions? Nooooo.
He is supposed to be the commander in chief. I know many people who have served in the US, Canadian, Russian and Israel militaries. Many of these commanded troops, if even only a handful. Others were senior officers commanding thousands. Not a single one of them that I know would have endangered the lives of his troops for a photo op like the President did on Sunday to his security detail. Not one. Do YOU know anyone who has command who would?
He is a serial adulterer. Admitted fact. He is a liar to both the IRS and to his bankers; documented fact. He cheats people who have done work for him, all the time, and dares them to sue him – I heard this firsthand from a lawyer who worked for him who was IN THE ROOM when he did this. A frum lawyer, a baal tzedaka, a Republican and community leader who vowed never to work for him again.
He abandoned the Kurds to die at the hands of the Turks because the tyrant of Istanbul berated him. The Kurds, who fought and died beside Americans. Who are friends of Israel.
He has not said a word to the Russians about putting bounties on the heads of US soldiers in Afghanistan. NOT. ONE. WORD.
That’s the morality issue.
He doesn’t understand trade. He puts tariffs on materials that the US doesn’t make enough of to look tough to his constituents, but because US manufacturers have to import these (now more expensive because of those tariffs) materials to make their products, all he does is raise prices for Americans, while also inviting the inevitable counter-tariffs. He has done this repeatedly. For a conservative this looks and sounds like counterproductive socialist policy. And yet you support him. Mazel Tov. You understand trade even less than he does.
For someone who declared that he would hire only the best, He has had a revolving door of senior and cabinet level staff. If Rex Tillerson, John Kelly, HR McMaster, Jim Mattis, Gary Cohn, and John Bolton were so terrible, why on earth did this brilliant stable genius hire them? And if they weren’t (Including several of the most revered military officers of the last half century) Why did they quit?
And, finally, COVID. He created multiple superspreader events, for his own campaign and his own edification. He has endangered every employee of the white house. It is small and cramped in much of the west wing, with not very good circulation. I know, I’ve been there. Have you, dear critics?
Herman Cain.
One man. who was at the Tulsa campaign event, maskless as he was encouraged to be, a few days before testing positive. He died on July 30th.
209,000 more have died.
If I grant you that 99.9% of his actions on COVID were right (and I do not, but for argument’s sake, lets say I did), that leaves 209 dead who his wrong decisions killed. 209. So far.
Charles Manson killed 9 people.
Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 people.
Ted Bundy killed 30 people.
209.
Would you vote for someone who is responsible for 209 deaths he could have prevented, even if he didn’t kill them directly? Imagine someone who purposefully drove through 209 crosswalks again and again mowing down pedestrians each time. Perhaps not killing intentionally, but negligently driving that car.
Really, you’d vote for him?
Now, if there was a real Republican on the ticket, I wouldn’t even look at Joe Biden. And I worry about the left wing of the Democratic Party more than I have had to in the past. But he isn’t a socialist and if you paid attention at the Democratic convention, the Biden Platform that was adopted by the party rejected almost every significant socialist idea brought up. In fact, it was more pro Israel (surprising even me) than any Democratic platform in the last 30 years. And Kamala Harris among all of the other candidates aside from Mike Bloomberg and possibly Pete Buttigieg, was the most centrist and moderate, as far from Sanders et al as one could be in the party. You wouldn’t be able to tell, of course, if you just watch one sided news. (I watch or read Fox, CNN, Bloomberg and MSNBC). The spin is amazing.
As with most things, it comes down to not who you most want, but who will do the least damage. America is hemorrhaging. And conservatives like me can see it. I am neither a liberal nor am I “woke”, but there is absolutely no compelling reason to vote for Trump in November (including Israel; agreeing that he’s done good there, what can he realistically add that he hasn’t already done?) and too many reasons not to.