KY
“Really. So when the guy is coming at his victim with knife upraised
The victim tells him, ”hang tight, let me just make a quick call to my local court to see if I can kill you in self defense right now. BTW can you tell me the exact specifications of your knife because they will need to know. Also how much do you weigh?”
no, he does what he needs to do. Then later the police/court will determine if what he did was justified . He claims the guy had a knife, witnesses say it was plastic etc etc.
(to be clear if he was right to FEEL threatened that would be justified too in many cases eg although knife was plastic he had reason to think was real)
I’m not saying any chidushim.
you say “that’s what I have been trying to get you to understand all along.”
I got it. You keep making the same mistake.
Do you think A person can stab anyone he wants then say “Self defense! The guy was coming wit h a knife upraised”?
and that is it end of discussion! He made the claim, uttered the magic phrase and now can’t be questioned.
Johnny Cochran could’ve saved himself a lot of time, forget trying on gloves, just have OJ say the magic phrase and he walks
“I see it that the law says self defense is permitted.”
correct.
” I see the situation in in currently and I make a quick decision based on how I think the law applies to my specific scenario.”
Correct
“I don’t worry about the fact that I will not know how to answer in every other scenario. It really makes no difference.”
correct.
BUT you skipped what happens next if the police, later and courts deem your action to not have been justified. The knife was plastic for example, or he didn’t even have a knife you just claimed that he did so you can stab him.
Obviously you’d be in trouble.
Just because (you claim) you were acting in self defense doesn’t mean you are guiltless no matter what happens
“Same here.”
Correct!
“The law (according to my chosen constitutional scholar) allows overthrow of tyrannical government.”
ok, lets go with this
“I, decide that the government stealing the vote fits the bill. Bingo I can act on it.”
Correct.
BUT the police and courts will later determine if your act was jsutified, was the government really tyranical, are your claims true. Saying ” tyrannical government ” is not a magic phrase that lets you do what yu want, just like claiming “self defense” isn’t
Do I know if a different situation that you are curious about, also fits the bill of this law?
Dunno. Come over shabbos after the cholent. If I can keep my eyes open we can schmooze about it. Whats the difference??”
Two differences
1) curiosity, I find this discussion interesting
2) In my opinion it weakens your view. There have been many, (ok several.) To the best of my knowledge, NOT ONE of them made this claim, seems a bit odd. No its not proof of anything, just strange
I’d rather come for the cholent though