>> You’d think someone who learns gemara would have saichal
this is the key question. Do we learn logical skills from Gemora, and if not, what is this activity?
we are discussing in another thread gemorot about several groups that always fight – dogs, roosters .. loose women, some say Talmidei Chachamim miBavel – meaning that Bavli argumentative style of searching for truth is picked up by some people inappropriately to argue any point without regards to truth. So, it is not a surprise that we have some people learning that way. More concerning to me personally is when we get a large group forming around such learning style, endangering our core values of integrity in learning