Reply To: Vaxxine-pass

Alwaysaskquestions-“let’s look at top vaccinated countries to understand effect on overall propagation:
4 top countries using western vaccines have all decreasing cases”

-Cases have been going down even before the vaccine, so what exactly are you trying to prove here?

Daas-“Did I say I was certain it wasn’t connected? No, I said there’s no evidence.”

-But you have evidence that it wasnt linked to it correct?

“Of course there will be people who die on the same day they are vaccinated. That doesn’t prove any correlation. ”

-Yup, just a mere coincidink

“You don’t prove causation unless you study two otherwise similar groups and find that the vaccinated group has more deaths than the unvaccinated group. That has not happened.”

-More than 99% of cases survived. The argument here btw isnt only whether the vaccine works well or not and for how long, its about the long term effects that it may have on a person since its in the experimental stages and will be for quite some time. Time is the only way to test long term. No way to speed that up.

Also it may be early to tell how long they stay, but so far pretty much everyone who had the virus still has antibodies a year later or at least arent getting sick again with Covid (even with all the 40 variants they found and named for every country and city). If that wasnt the case we would have seen everyone get it a second time by now and would have been a major uptick in cases. That hasnt happened. So far the natural antibodies are holding up for much longer than what the vaccine is projected to last.

“The very nature of conspiracy theories is that they can’t be “disproven” because whatever evidence there is is dismissed as a lie and cover up. On the other hand, there is evidence of how lethal Covid can be, and that the vaccine is effective at preventing it.”

-That goes both ways with opposite terms. Again we arent talking only of the effectiveness, the main concern are the long term side effects which we have no way of knowing yet. And btw there were cases of people getting sick even with the vax. Vaccines only try to prevent they are not absolute.

Again, if you want to take the vaccine do it. But how can you force others especially those with antibodies to take it? If the vaccine is effective, why should you worry about getting sick? And if you cant even transfer it to others once vaccinated as youve stated, then how would you be able to get sick in the first place?
You are now playing the mask game, It prevents your germs from going outside the mask, but it cant prevent others germs from going into your mask. Is one side more protected than the other? Absolutely not!
Its so illogical and makes no sense at all, its just a theory they came up with in order to make everyone wear a mask(“since you are doing it to protect others from yourself”), and now to make everyone take an experimental vaccine. Explain to me how the wearer of the mask protects others from germs but is at risk from their germs.

And by the way @Health, I dont need to prove anything. There have been numerous cases of people dying hours later after the vaccine. The media made sure to report it by prefacing “that it was unrelated to vaccine and they died of natural causes”. Even if they would have died on the spot they would say it was unrelated and you would believe them. Just as that nurse Tiffany Dover collapses live on cameras and they forced her to say she has a fainting disorder which happens frequently and randomly. Way to be a nurse with that condition, sure.
Is Malpractice also a conspiracy? Are bad doctors also a conspiracy? The medical world can do no wrong or its a conspiracy.

Its like, use your brain, noone is saying everything is a cover up and conspiracy. But to say they do no wrong is sheer lunacy and naive. Just look at how many people they hooked up to ventilators without need only for the money even if it killed them which it has. Conspiracy also? There was a nurse who came out and spoke about it and even has recordings.
What was it something like $3000 for a Covid patient but $6500 for a dead one? Those figures were publicized. If thats not enough for you to figure something is wrong here, nothing will be. But ya, it sure gave them motivation to save patients I’ll tell you that.