AFellowJew and meirs – you may not realize this but we have discussed this at length, or should i say ad nauseum on many threads here over the years. You may think that if they just ask someone or “look it up inside” it will show them the light but it doesn’t work that way in real life.
There are many legitimate questions and only a handful of posters have had some serious answers but bottom line is, been there done that. You may have to agree to disagree but they are not just walking into this out of nowhere.