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AviraDeArah
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Gadolha, the issue here is the motivation. Giving to goyim is not because of altruism or lishma, it’s because of the gemara quoted at the beginning of this thread, and nothing more. Chazal say that we do it exclusively because of darchei sholom. There is no greater example of darchei sholom than a wealthy yid who would normally give only to yidden, but that would cause a lack of sholom with goyim, so he gives to goyim as well. Word for word what the gemara says.

The problem is when we make it into a lishma. It’s the same as the issur of hashavas aveida. It is unequivocally assur to return a goys aveidah. The only time one must do so is to avoid chilul hashem, and one is allowed to do so – although not required – to create a kidush hashem. People who go around saying to treat goyim the same as yidden are violating the Torah in a profound way. Rashi explains that when one returns an aveidah to a goy, he is “mareh beatzmo” he shows about himself that he’s not concerned with doing mitzvos for hashem, because if he were he would only do it when it is a mitzvah. Since he’s doing it for anyone, it’s saying that he does not care about doing mitzvos for hashem.

That’s when Jewish people knew this basic truth, so giving to goyim used to be a clear indication that such a person was not interested in torah. Nowadays we’re so taken by pluralism and false equality that we think we are all the same and are all afforded the same privileges. To the point that if someone thinks of discerning yidden from goyim, he is the one who is thought to have violated a false “torah” of equality and fairness. Genevas daas, hashavas aveidah, taos akum, all are “unthinkable”, a travesty to Torah and hashem because it doesn’t comport with modern ideology.

Re; israel and harping – whatever the status of Israeli frei people are, it doesn’t change the fact that Israel past and present has given a hard time to the torah world. They have, whether in knowing evil intent or not, presented us with roadblocks, bias and anti torah culture. And yes, they have become the lightning rod of anti semitism.

You can think whatever you want, but i suggest reading some history books about how Jews got along with Arabs before Zionism. The Grand mufti of Jerusalem, once a friend to Jewish people, pushed hitler over the edge to carry out the final solution. A million or so sefardi jews were expelled from their homes just after the accursed state was declared.

If the truth and following the Torah makes the frei hate us, then so be it – that’s nothing new. The am haaratzim always hated the bnei torah; it’s all over chazal. I’m not going to change my service if hashem, and my fulfillment of halo misanecha hashem esneh uvmiskomemecha eskoteit. I will not mix in with them, dress like them, talk like them, fight in their znus army or speak their filthy language when not necessary.