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AviraDeArah
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Yukel, telling people who disagree with you that they don’t “know the first thing about (insert topic)” only shows insecurity. Also, chasidus is not part and parcel with “Judaism” or even kabalah. There are hundreds of thousands of jews who practice judaism who are not involved in either. I don’t claim to be an expert on chasidus, but the satmar rov definitely was, and he criticized the lubavitcher rebbe frequently, referring to him as a “shoteh”.

That being said, I believe I know the first thing about judaism, which is that there is one G-d, infinite, non-physical, indivisible, and “one”, with nothing else in the universe comparable to Him. Your words contradict that clarion monotheism one appreciates from having a sound chinuch and keeping away from false ideologies, from within or without.

The fact that you have to distinguish your beliefs from Christianity (or rather, your understanding of Christianity, more on that soon) is telling. I do not have any beliefs on Hashem which run close enough to Christianity that i need to explain the difference. Christianity does not believe that god was “somewhere else” when he was cv”s in yushke. Christianity believes in a Trinity, a god that has 3 manifestations, one being the “father”, the “son”, and some sort of spirit. It’s nonsense, because Hashem’s oneness is indivisible, and they accept that He is one, not three. But lishitasam, the “father” part was there running the world while the “son” part was busy saving humanity from sin by dying on a cross.

What Christianity and neo-chabad have in common is that they are ascribing divinity to something else besides the one true G-d. Neo-chabad saying the words “running the world” are very specific. We don’t say that the area between the badim “runs the world” either. Never in Jewish history has anyone said that something runs the world besides Hashem himself. No one said it about Moshe rabeinu, or any of our other tzadikim.

Hashem reveals himself in many ways. When you see hashgocha pratis in your dealings with goyim, Hashem has revealed himself through the goy – are you going to now look at him as a tzinor for shechina? As someone who enjoys chasidus, it definitely has shown me ways of seeing hashgocha that I wouldn’t have otherwise known – chasidus is beautiful, rebbe-worship is not.

According to your explanation that when you say a man “runs the world” it really means that he is a kli to show the revelation of godliness…what does that have to do with running the world? Tzadikim sit in gan eden and enjoy the ziv hashechina. They’re not any more meyuchod with Hashem than any other neshoma.