UJM
“Ubiq: Abortion should be illegalized at the federal level. ”
Mazel tov, it won’t happen though . you can wish for whatever you like of course .
Even if Congress tried to pass such a law, it is a tough argument that the federal government has a right to make it illegal given the 10th amendment as akuperma pointed out.
Avira
“It’s like if someone tells you that there’s a sleeping person aside 10 dead bodies, ”
no its not like that, its like you telling me I cant , I don’t know take methotrexate because I have a living person inside me. What ? prove it thats bizzare a living person inside me I never heard of such a thing how did it get there? You woudl have to prove somehting so outlandish to try to control what I do (Om a male btw)
You have a chidush that this “clump of cells” (at least at some point in its development) that is totally dependent on its mother for survivial is morally a life. That is a chidush. Prove it.
(to be clear I’m not actually asking you to prove it, I’m pointing out that your simplistic approach doesn’t hold up to mild scrutiny)
“I don’t see how social considerations factor in to a discussion of murder”
Abortion is clearly not black and white murder. Halacha has a very complicated and nuanced approach some poskim take viability into account, some consider the mother’s mental health, some are meikil before 40 days, soem differntiate between Jew and goy. None of these are relevant in murder (As you sort of point out) Yet many factor them in with abortion. So you come up with some halahcic gedr its sort of murder, its not murder at all but we have no right on our bodies generally speaking. Whatever halachic justification you make, ok so make a similar “moral” or secular one.
Health
“It will happen in Red states, because the poor people who Rely on Medicaid to finance their abortions won’t get them!”
As it is Medicaid funds rarely cover abortions, and don’t worry I’m sure planned parenthood would be happy to make up the difference.