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Lol at your previous post, I love it when you make stuff up “currently a great number of those who claim to want to follow rebbe yishmoel go off entirely or partially in trying to do so” In this one you are flat out arguing on the Gemara which says almost the opposite

Good stuff.

Two points that seem to have been ignored in this thread.

1) Hours.
teachers work much fewer hours than most. Typically half a day ( yes plus an hour for phonecalls grading papers etc). Early dismissal Fridays. Not to mention summer off.

Plus there schedule is built around their kid’s with off during kids breaks winter, Chanuka etc. Fridays in the winter are less of a stress.

It is not reasonable to argue that “well in an office job I would make 15 K more” – which is what a recent “viral letter” said comparing Apples and Oranges.

Of course if after you chesban all the extra hours ? babysitting and still feel that working almost double the hours (including summers and full days instead of half) is to your benefit for the extra 15 K, then go for it chayecha kodem. but to just compare Teaching to a much more time intensive job doesn’t make sense.

2) tuition breaks
A even bigger point is tuition breaks. As far as I’m aware most schools offer their faculty tuition breaks, The ones I’m aware are half off.
One of the popular local girl schools in my area charges 12 K per kid. A teacher with 3 girls in the school saves 18K a year. To make that extra 18K Before taxes she would need 25 K (guesstimating).

now granted this depends on how many kids faculty member has, and of what gender. Though solutions could be easily worked out (if there was such desire) between schools that could give vouchers recognized by the other.

In short teachers pay is commensurate to the far fewer hours they work compared to most.
When you include tuition breaks it far exceeds most similar level fields