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smerel
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>>>His point was the the gedolim said that the 6 day war was a war like the American revolution, civil war, gulf war, and countless others that were within derech hateva.

That is exactly what the militantly atheistic Zionists say too. If the American revolution, civil war, gulf war and other wars were also a situation of very two unequal sides facing with such a quick victory for the weaker side with so few causalities for them I would also see and say that the Yad Hashem was on their side.

>>>So too here; Israel had a lot of advantages, so the war was not a miracle at all.

Can you name the Israeli advantages other than claimed ingenuity and better planning?

>>>But we don’t say halel on that, and we’re not even allowed to, as chazal say about someone who says halel everyday…

I don’t say Hallel for the Six day war either but based on that logic you can stop saying “Rabim B’Yad Me’atim and many other parts of the Chanuka story from Bemay MAtisyahu. I’m sure the Misyavnim back then also said the Chasmoniam were stronger, smarter etc and won through natural means.

>>>Why are they called laitzonei hador?

Because they refused to acknowledge Yad Hasem and said after all the years Sorah did not become pregnant from Avorhom it must be that she can’t and became pregnant from Avimelech.

>>>Ever wonder why the same people who consider themselves “rationalist”, eschew kabalah etc.

Actually the oppisite. Rabbi Berel Wein has the observation that throughout history three groups have frequently shared and advocated the same position with regard to various Jewish community issues .those groups are (1)The very, very far right frum groups (2)the militantly atheistic anti-religious Jewish groups and (3) the non-Jewish anti-Semites . This approach to the the Six Day War (and the general approach to the State of Israel today) is just a typical example following history.