All rabbi shapiro did was talk with atzmon in an interview with them both: he is certainly not friends with him. Rabbi shapiro spends a lot of time trying to tell the world that zionists don’t represent Jews, and that interview was one such opportunity.
Facts are facts, and the fact that another group who we disagree with states them doesn’t detract from their truth. What r wein is basically saying is that since the frei say it, they must be wrong – that’s not intellectual honesty. If the frei happen to be presenting military facts and say that the war was not a miracle, but rather no different than the hundreds of other wars in the 20th century whether or not they’re right depends on whether or not the facts are true, not their ideology or goals in stating those facts
Their goal is to minimize Hashem and say that everything is nature
Our goal is the opposite; it’s to minimize chilul Hashem and say that he is not going to do miracles for you if you are an enemy of torah, and say that Hashem will not do miracles for a wicked army when he said so in the Torah that he will turn away from such an army. We’re saying that people make up these miracle stories to claim that Hashem approves of their actions, which he doesn’t, because they’re against his torah.
To group them together is classic misdirection and not proper historical research. It’s like when MO say “what? You want us to be like Uganda and punish toevah with the death penalty?” The fact that Uganda happens to get it right in one way doesn’t detract from the truth of the position mitzideinu. That’s misdirection and an emotional ploy, but it’s not rational.