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smerel
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>>>All rabbi shapiro did was talk with atzmon in an interview with them both

That isn’t true. They both quote each other on plenty of other occasions and I’ve seen Shapiro make other references to conversation he had with Atzmon . As a rule by people like Shapiro hischabrus wiht resoyim is only wrong when the Rosha is suspected of being a Zionist. And if the Rosha is an anti-Zionist then even chanufa to Resoyim is allowed.

>>>What r wein is basically saying is that since the frei say it, they must be wrong

Rabbi Wein said nothing of the sort. It was a neutral observation commenting on political views and activism done in Russia over 125 years ago. BUT Chazal said “lo Bchinom holoch hzarzar etzel H’arov” is based on Pesukim in the Torah

>>>If the frei happen to be presenting military facts

If it were the consensus of secular world that would be true. If it is only the militantly secular who are presenting such “facts” but the more mainstream view is and was that the Six Day War results were better than any expectation then it is suspect.