jackk-
I didn’t forget about you- I just had a very busy weekend.
1) We seem to be going in circles over here. It’s my understanding that the House decides if the crime is an impeachable offense and the Senate votes on whether there’s enough evidence to show that the crime was committed- it’s not up to the Senate to decide if the offense is impeachable or not. Impeachment is for Treason, Bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. I think perjury is a serious enough crime to fit in that category.
I’m no expert in the Constitution so if I’m wrong please point me to where in the Constitution it says otherwise. Otherwise I have nothing left to add to this topic.
Also, are you saying that since this was regarding a personal relationship he shouldn’t have been removed from office for committing perjury? Would you also say that if he shot Monica when he was done that he shouldn’t have been removed from office since it was part of a personal relationship?
Regarding the two recent impeachments- Democrats made a mockery of the process by saying that they were going to impeach him before he was even sworn in- they just needed the numbers and once they got that after the midterm elections they went for it. Did you expect anyone to take them seriously when Nancy Pelosi got up there giggling and giving out impeachment pens as souvenirs? This was only done for political revenge and to waste time.
2) I agree that a Frum Yid should not stand behind any party but pardon me mentioning this- you seem to stand very strongly behind the Democratic party and have an answer for everything that they do. I haven’t read through all you posts but I don’t think you ever said that you strongly disagree with them trying to force society to recognize relationships that the Torah call an abomination or that you disagree with the notion that unborn babies should be killed at the whim of the mother but we should continue voting Democrat as it’s the lesser of two evils (because they give generous handouts).
3) I’m not sure what you’re getting at over here. You are correct that bail wasn’t instituted so that rich people can get out of jail immediately and poor people can’t. Bail was instituted so that people who were arrested or charged with a crime can stay out of jail until they are tried and convicted (and probably so that they behave while they are out). The cash (or bond) that they are expected to put down is to ensure that they show up to their trial. It’s easier for rich people to post bail but the poor people have options as well. Go to any rough neighborhoods and you’ll see bail bondsman all over the place. If they need to pawn jewelry from relatives the relatives will make sure they don’t run off. If they need to put the title to the family home, the family will look after them. If they rent a bond from a bail bondsman- the bail bondsman will make sure they show up to court.
I don’t believe I said that the two were correlated- these were just two of the policies created by Democrats that create lawlessness. Do you agree that not arresting someone for stealing less that $1,000 at a time will do little to discourage them from stealing over and over again? Do you agree that allowing violent people to be released the same day without having to post bail will do little to discourage them from being violent again? This is what’s creating lawlessness regardless of whether there’s a correlation between them.
4) I’m glad you agreed with me on this once we got down to what we were disputing about.
5) Just because it’s helping some people get coverage doesn’t mean that it’s working, that it can sustain itself or that it’s not detrimental to other people. I can probably mention a few things that Former President Trump created that are helping others (probably you as well) but you’d still consider a failure and vote for it to be repealed.
I have a Rov but I don’t agree with his political views (he’s too right wing for me) but I do follow the guidance of two of my Rosh Hayeshiva (they are both on the Moetzes). My Rov considers liberalism to be a sickness and feels that they are working to destroy the moral fabric of society. For the most part I look at Liberals as genuine people who have their heart in the right place but their brains in the wrong place. They’ll go out of their way and do anything to make people happy- but that includes allowing them to kill their unborn babies if it’ll make them happy and call their relationship with their significant other a “marriage” regardless of whether it fits in with the definition of marriage or not. These naïve people (who impress me with the love, care and dedication that they show their kids in the park) don’t realize that these views end up allowing perverts to follow their young daughters into the girls locker rooms because they “identify” as a female.
The Roshei Hayeshiva, as far as I know, never said that it’s assur to vote Democrat- they provide guidance on how a Frum Yid should vote in each election.
Do you mind if I ask if you consult a Rov before voting Democrat?