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AviraDeArah
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Syag, read it carefully. They’re not disavowing and repudiating the opinions. “Everyone’s entitled to their opinion” wouldn’t be said if the issue were any other psak.

When the gedolim assered the new york board of rabbis, they didn’t write on the kol koreh “but we do respect everyone’s right to an opinion.” That’s just not how rabbonim speak when forbidding things or making clarion calls – this was not clarion. It was purposefully vague, using some strong language but stopping short of just saying. The. Words. Rebbe. Is. Not. Moshaich. It’s not very hard to do.

Ts, uht azoi! You’re finally admitting that there’s some validity, in your mind, to the notion that the lubavitcher rebbe was moshiach.

Personally i think rav shach spread Torah more qualitatively than the lubavitcher rebbe. He preserved pre war torah. He increased the amount of torah learning to levels unseen since bayis sheni. Learning torah brings the geulah
The lubavitcher rebbe spread some torah to frei people, the overwhelming majority of whom stayed frei or weren’t reached by shluchim. Putting leather boxes on clueless people with the halachik status of goyim or captured babies does little to bring the geulah, I’m sorry.

I do thank you for finally recognizing that messianic ideology is present even in the non-meshichist or supposed anti-meshichist group.

Many tzadikim were pure hearted, kind, and dedicated their lives to klal yisroel. The chofetz chaim, for instance. If someone told rav elchonon that the chofetz chaim was moshiach (ok, bad example, he’s a kohen) he would say “no”, because he was no longer alive. Not maybe, not possibly; no. Flat out, simple no.

This is the case for every influential tzadik who was just as compassionate and kind as the lubavitcher rebbe and moreso.