ujm – even live, if you are given a choice between having to walk down a street that has women singing, or one where they are dressed inappropriately, the choice is very clear. Not all erva is the same. The same way there’s a difference between a woman in short sleeves and one in a swimsuit, even though both are exposing erva. It’s a davar pashut.
Gadol; how in the world does “greater adherence to tzinius guidelines” have anything to do with degradation or subordination? It’s the opposite; by dressing more tznius, a woman is more dignified and less objectified, and seen as merely a vehicle for lust for men.
When feminists say they want to dress provocatively “for themselves” and champion pritzus as a means of “liberation,” what they’re saying is that “don’t objectify and sexualize us, but….look, we’re going to be super provocative, right in your face, in ways that we know are designed around men’s preferences and desires….objectification is only a problem if it’s forced upon us”