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Minimum halacha has never been kept in Israel. The best we’ve gotten is the they allow us, usually, to keep halacha, but they’d love it if we didn’t. Shabbos isn’t kept nationally; just businesses are closed. Highways are open, as are things the government considers essential. Movies are open, too. Ben gurion told the chazon ish that his idea of oneg shabbos was pruning his garden, so how can you dictate “your” view, etc…sports games are played pn shabbos in stadiums.

The army is mostly mixed. Toe’va people run proudly through the streets of yerushalayim. Schools don’t teach anything. The prime minister misquoted shema, saying hashem emet or something.

They teach kids that the nation started in israel,and may or may not have been slaves in egypt, krias yam suf, matan torah, are all not necessarily true cv”s. David and golias? 100% true. Because it shows jewish might or whatever.

The state was created to shmad jews. Rav chaim brisker said people think that the zionists want a state, and in order to have one you can’t be frum… it’s the opposite, they want a state in order to not be frum!